Could be so much better

"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse) 05/22/2018 at 15:18 • Filed to: Golf

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I’ve been driving a Golf for the past couple of days. 1.5 litre petrol engine, seven speed DSG with fairly high gearing and an engine which spends a surprising amount of its time stopped. Go down a modest slope and it’ll stop. Slow down in traffic and it’ll do the same (although strangely it’ll often start as soon as you come to a halt). Despite all that, this is claimed to be the average fuel consumption (don’t like l/100 km? Google is your friend). The petrol engine is a problem of course but even so it’s far from impressive.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 15:33

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whats the EPIC light for nexxt to the CEL? EPIC Burnouts?

HammerheadFistpunch > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 15:34

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30 mpg is pretty good. About what I would expect from a motor that size in a car that size. I got 19.6L/100 this morning when I filled up.

Cé hé sin > Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero 05/22/2018 at 15:36

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EPC. Electronic Performance Control, or stability control. It goes out with the other lights when you start the engine.

Cé hé sin > HammerheadFistpunch 05/22/2018 at 15:38

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I once borrowed my father’s diesel Focus for a long journey and it did 4.3 l/100 km. No fancy start/stop or coasting.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 15:40

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Uh....I get 6.3L / 100km in my 2009 Accent with only a 5-speed manual, and no start stop....

My Accent would be 200kg lighter, but it has a larger engine than the Golf (1.6L vs the Golf’s 1.5L) and I imagine the Accent’s engine is far less technically innovative, so that economy on the Golf seems sortof crummy to me!

HammerheadFistpunch > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 15:41

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Best I ever got out of the sportwagen TDI was about 5

Out, but with a W - has found the answer > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 15:47

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Drove a 68 hp 1.2 Citroën C3 a couple of weekends ago; it averaged 6.0l/100 km on the highway. My 160 hp MX-5 averages 6.5 combined. ¯\_()_/¯

duurtlang > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 05/22/2018 at 15:54

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But you’re never on boost.

duurtlang > Out, but with a W - has found the answer 05/22/2018 at 15:55

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Aerodynamics and gearing? The C3 might be a bit underpowered for efficient higher speed traveling as well?

My diesel Focus wagon did about 4.8 L/100km I believe.

DasWauto > HammerheadFistpunch 05/22/2018 at 15:56

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I got 6.4l/100km out of my Mk7 Golf with a 1.8l/5speed manual very regularly. I’m a bit surprised the 1.5l/DSG didn’t do better, unless it was city only driving.

duurtlang > DasWauto 05/22/2018 at 15:57

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And Autobahn.

Cé hé sin > Out, but with a W - has found the answer 05/22/2018 at 16:01

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That’s more like it.

My father’s diesel Focus will do 4.3 on along journey.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > duurtlang 05/22/2018 at 16:07

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I don’t have boost as my engine is NA! :P

But I thought the point of turbocharging smaller engines was to increase fuel economy and power for the size of the engine?

Out, but with a W - has found the answer > duurtlang 05/22/2018 at 16:07

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Yeah, the C3 is awful at that. Turning 3500-3600 rpm at 120 kph (redline at 5800 or thereabouts). Still, combined consumption was 6.8 I think, so it’s not like it’s any more economical in town.

Out, but with a W - has found the answer > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 16:09

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I’m pleasantly surprised, it’s 1-1,5l less than what my MR2 used.

The Roadster is quite frugal as well, I’d wager?

DasWauto > duurtlang 05/22/2018 at 16:14

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Yea, that wouldn’t help.

Chinny Raccoon > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 05/22/2018 at 16:19

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Sometimes you get neither power or economy.

It’s easier to get a good score on the old European economy test with a tiny engine and turbo. Manufacturers got very good at getting the high test scores that were unachievable in the real world.

Klaus Schmoll > Chinny Raccoon 05/22/2018 at 16:24

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Was that the GLAbomination you flogged hard through the Alps?

Chinny Raccoon > Klaus Schmoll 05/22/2018 at 16:35

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Yes. It wasn’t very economical in normal driving either.

duurtlang > Chinny Raccoon 05/22/2018 at 16:55

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Merc GLA in the Alps?

Edit: I see you already answered.

wafflesnfalafel > Cé hé sin 05/22/2018 at 21:05

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That whole stop-start thing just bugs me... never been in a car that did it well/smoothly and it still gives me the heebeejeebees starting the motor over and over and over and over again...